nick says:
OK SO WHAT AREE WE GANNA LOOK AT NOW
mattcc777 says:
EP
nick says:
K GIMMY A WEBSITE
mattcc777 says:
look for some and then we can send links to each other
nick says:
ok well i would like to take a look at the UP trainging that we were talking about erlr
nick says:
EP*
mattcc777 says:
ok i will try and find it
mattcc777 says:
[link]
nick says:
does it give any prices
nick says:
?
mattcc777 says:
[link]
nick says:
yup i wuz jus looking at that
mattcc777 says:
lol
mattcc777 says:
State BSIS & Other Costs (See below)
Qualifying Range/Ammo
Training - 40 hours Guard
Training - 14 hours Gun
Total $236
$ 24
$300
$150
$710
nick says:
ya i rther get paid to get the guard card lol
nick says:
how much of that do you already jave?
mattcc777 says:
ok they dont pay u to get it they take it out of ur pay after u get it
nick says:
have?
nick says:
oh haha
mattcc777 says:
i have the guard card so im going with the last option
nick says:
ok
mattcc777 says:
yea
mattcc777 says:
the $360 one
nick says:
.
mattcc777 says:
yea
mattcc777 says:
oh and im tacking on thw ccw for utah and florida
nick says:
in utah or florida/
nick says:
?
mattcc777 says:
both
nick says:
??? elabarate
mattcc777 says:
if i get both i can carry in almost any stae.
mattcc777 says:
state*
nick says:
I c now
mattcc777 says:
yea
mattcc777 says:
can u call tomarrow?
nick says:
? what, you?
mattcc777 says:
i have work to marrow and i dont want to stop talking to them every 5 min.
nick says:
nope lol ima be in arrow head tomarrow helping prep for camp
mattcc777 says:
fine w/e i guess i will have to do all the leg work
nick says:
haha lol
mattcc777 says:
whats so funny?
mattcc777 says:
well?
nick says:
whats?
mattcc777 says:
whats sooo funny?
nick says:
nothing anymore dwbi
mattcc777 says:
ok
mattcc777 says:
check out this
mattcc777 says:
[link]
nick says:
i think it may be face
nick says:
fake
mattcc777 says:
?
mattcc777 says:
y?
mattcc777 says:
TUITION: $3,490.00
nick says:
the first sentence ""ACTUALLY ""PERFORM an overnight estate or hotel/motel protection mission. PERFORM?
nick says:
ACTUALLY PERFOM

nick says:
y would they have to say ACTUALLY PERFORM
mattcc777 says:
tell me another program that does that?
nick says:
no no why would they have to say ACTUALY PERFORM?? they dont need to say that.... they should have no reason to sho off
mattcc777 says:
some of us dont just speculate check there referances
nick says:
well some of us do
nick says:
go down to he bottom were it say's apply........
mattcc777 says:
yea
nick says:
second thing i noticed was how they ask for the credit card info.....
nick says:
differs from most actual websites
mattcc777 says:
yes
mattcc777 says:
most do
nick says:
most have those little credit card pics
nick says:
lol
mattcc777 says:
ok so
mattcc777 says:
im whating for the punch line
mattcc777 says:
just because the web site isnt flashy they r fake?
nick says:
there is no punch line and my argument is very week cuz i have no idea of what i am talking about
mattcc777 says:
lol
mattcc777 says:
yea i know
nick says:
the cotact us is very lame
mattcc777 says:
ok...?
mattcc777 says:
how is it lame?
mattcc777 says:
it is straight to the point.
nick says:
just because its strait to the point doesnt make it good
nick says:
??? lol
mattcc777 says:
what is wrong with it?
nick says:
how much did yhou say tuition was?
mattcc777 says:
TUITION: $3,490.00
nick says:
this si more of a team not just the training
mattcc777 says:
?
mattcc777 says:
how?
nick says:
just look over everything
mattcc777 says:
i will that is y i want u to call or what ever u would like i would like another set of eyes and ears on this
nick says:
WHO ARE WE? We are honored to have been chosen, since 1978, to provide training in our concept of personal protection techniques for personnel assigned to the best government, private and corporate protective teams in the world. Our graduates have gone on to continue training and practicing the techniques we have created; and in so doing, have created a new professional career field.


mattcc777 says:
if we plan on working as a team we should start now.
nick says:
nvm lol
nick says:
i didnt read close enpgh
mattcc777 says:
executive protections institute
nick says:
well then at frist would you likhow to go about things/e to work for an actual company/team to learn
nick says:
how to go about things
mattcc777 says:
?
nick says:
???? lol sry
mattcc777 says:
lol
mattcc777 says:
that made no sence
nick says:
would you like to join a company/team to learn how to go about things
mattcc777 says:
y not just do it our selves
nick says:
your confusing me now lol
mattcc777 says:
we get the training but we should make our on style and not takes anothers
mattcc777 says:
own*
nick says:
you said "if we plan on working as a team start now" lol i thought you ment join somthing.
nick says:
thats why i was asking
mattcc777 says:
no i ment it just sounds like u want me to do all the foot work and then come back to u with a price. and if it blows up its all on me.
nick says:
WHAT lol haha
mattcc777 says:
yea
nick says:
no way "snikering"
mattcc777 says:
lol
mattcc777 says:
yea
nick says:
im looking at everything i
mattcc777 says:
i say same time next week we both bring to prospects for team mates and three web sites we have done homework on
nick says:
OK lol now i love the way yor working
mattcc777 says:
oh and then next weeks goal is for them to find to and to chouse the program we will use
nick says:
them or us? lol
mattcc777 says:
u and i r the team leaders
mattcc777 says:
we make those chouses for the team or they can go and get seperate training
nick says:
ok
mattcc777 says:
but i beleive we work as a team, train as a team. only then can we have the trust to cover each others asses
nick says:
es this is very true
mattcc777 says:
and there r no second chances just like with life.
mattcc777 says:
the team comes before other jobs or we dont do the job.
nick says:
each member had his or her own unique strengths, the most cohesive and successful teams possessed broader groupings of strengths.
nick says:
Executing, Influencing, Relationship Building, and Strategic Thinking

mattcc777 says:
and they need to know that no matter what when we r on a job, they must listen to an order. not be a hard ass but yea nothing pisses me off more then when my ass is open to the wind because someone failed to execute an order,
nick says:
agread
nick says:
Instead of one dominant leader who tries to do everything or individuals who all have similar strengths, contributions from all four domains lead to a strong and cohesive team. Although individuals need not be well-rounded, teams should be.

mattcc777 says:
teams should be...?
mattcc777 says:
what?
nick says:
read each thing iv sent
mattcc777 says:
there will be 2 leaders and 2 seconds.
mattcc777 says:
when we r not on an active campegine there will be time for that group input but im saying when we go live, there needs to be no second guessing.
nick says:
im saying the team needs to work together and each individuals word s just as important than the other
nick says:
ok now i understand were ur comin from "on the feild" lol
nick says:
i was talking "behind the seens"
mattcc777 says:
well hell when we r not live we can freely talk of course. but when active there needs to be order and orders followed
nick says:
ya but there will never be live with out a teramthat know what each person is thinging and going to do
nick says:
team mate
mattcc777 says:
thus the need for lots of team training.
mattcc777 says:
so we work as one unit.
nick says:
yes we need to learn the bussines aspect b4 the gungho
mattcc777 says:
and if need be 2 sub groups.
nick says:
"of the team"
mattcc777 says:
i know u can lead so u would need to name ur fall back guy.
nick says:
Not sure what you mean.
mattcc777 says:
well when we get a contract, we will be speaking for the team so in our absence someone needs to do the leading
nick says:
ok understood kary on
nick says:
i dnt see how thats relavent at this piont
mattcc777 says:
also as we r the leads. all the legal shit is on our shoulders. just know we r very likely to get detained. so they need to learn from the begining the chain of comand because if we lay it down in the middle. people might get pissy as to y they were not chosen for lead.
nick says:
what im trying to say at this piont is, Leaders with great Strategic Thinking strengths are the ones who keep us all focused on what could be. They are constantly absorbing and analysing information and helping the team make better decisions. People with strength in this domain continually stretch our thinking for the future.


mattcc777 says:
yes because if we dont then we will find in fighting
nick says:
i C moreso f what your saying..... im not saying each personnshould have just as much say as us but as eachother.... see im not thinking about us and out position cuz when the time come i know we will be prepared because of our experiances..... but i am thinking of each individual in the team "the one wich we dont know yet lol"
nick says:
our position
mattcc777 says:
just know if it comes down to it i will kick someone out of the team if they under mind the orders given them. they can descuse their problems after we r off the clock.
mattcc777 says:
even if i have to do it in the middle of a mission.
nick says:
this is is an issue here power tripp lol we have to refreame from this as much as posable..... you cant just scare them into being ur bitch..... wait let me say 1 thing here..... our leading styl's may differ, your and mine...... are you an agressive leader?,... when it comes to me i am very passave agressive. i will not scare somone into following me i will teach them everything they need to know
nick says:
and they will inderstand that iff they fail to do what there asked they will be punnished
mattcc777 says:
im not agressive unless it means the differance between life and death
mattcc777 says:
because i dont want my ass in the wind like i said.
nick says:
ok stop thing live and think of how your going to teach each member most of there actions will be because of how or what you have tought them
mattcc777 says:
the fact is i take as they want me or another one of my team mates dead because they refuse to follow orders.
nick says:
thats were trainging is assetial
mattcc777 says:
yes if we train and that happens i will warn them but if it happens more then say...3 times he is out.
mattcc777 says:
im all for input at the right time.
nick says:
be4 you and any other member go live you will know them well enoph or should.\ wether they will do what you ask or not... that were you adn i as leaders will make the desission wether that individual is ready for a misson or not.
mattcc777 says:
i have known people for years thought i could trust them with my life and then they turn out to be self serving bitches
nick says:
in the training we put them through we will insteal in there minds that if on dies they all die
nick says:
one
mattcc777 says:
hell yes.
nick says:
as a leader you need to show your member trust
nick says:
even if its very little
mattcc777 says:
i trust people until they give me a reson not to.
nick says:
thats just you as an individual now your part of somthing more
mattcc777 says:
but it is hard to get back my trust.
nick says:
teams need to be 1 rite
mattcc777 says:
just like on mission i trust that most people dont want to hurt the vip. but if u give me a reson to not trust u around my vip i will deal with them swiftly and as hard as i can.
nick says:
i agree with what your saying but as a leader that should be out of your head cuz your just ganna set that person and your self up for failur as a team
mattcc777 says:
but i am giveing them trust in the first place it is up to them to keep it.
mattcc777 says:
same with respect.
nick says:
i understand but for being in a leader position thats not the way you want to be thinkging
mattcc777 says:
it like i trust u wont stab me. but if i wake up and ur standing over me with a knife to my throwt i wont asume that anymore.
nick says:
lol at least its not the back
mattcc777 says:
and i wont trust u with a knife again.
nick says:
the throught bis better
nick says:
is
mattcc777 says:
is that not resonable?
nick says:
very reasonable
nick says:
more or less this is not something you should say to them....
mattcc777 says:
same thing if i tell him to cover door x but instead he covers door y
nick says:
mistakes happen and there are punnishmets according too those mistakes
nick says:
with propper trainging this mistake wont happen
mattcc777 says:
yes but the fact is if it is out right insubordination. i will not stand for it. because in the end its my ass on the line.
nick says:
ok if insabordination should happen on the feild well yes justice is a major facter
mattcc777 says:
because everyone in the group is placeing their trust in me to keep their safty in mind and they trust everyone else to follow those orders.
nick says:
wich they will.. the individualse we choose are very vital
mattcc777 says:
see this is the other part as leaders we need to swear to not argue in front of the team. ok?
nick says:
oh yes this is a for sure
mattcc777 says:
because then we can have people causing us to fight even more.
mattcc777 says:
so as far as i can see we r in agreement.
nick says:
wll remember the real menigng of an argument
nick says:
that justice will be served accordin to the case at question then yes
mattcc777 says:
can u see anything that we differ in?
nick says:
maby style of leader ship but othere wise no
mattcc777 says:
what is ur style?
nick says:
passave agressive
mattcc777 says:
but what does that mean to u?
nick says:
well when i need to become agreasive it will happen and very big.... you should ask some of my pool staff members
mattcc777 says:
for example what would u do if u told guy a to cover door x but he covers door y and guy b gets taged because of it.
nick says:
lol
nick says:
well he would be fired
nick says:
but not on the spot
mattcc777 says:
now what if was a sim
nick says:
he still is a valuble asset to the mission
mattcc777 says:
it*
nick says:
?
mattcc777 says:
simulation exursize
nick says:
well he will be punnished
mattcc777 says:
but y the diffreance?
nick says:
because a sim is a trainging exersise right
mattcc777 says:
but every training exercise should be treated like a live campaigne. that is y we have them.
mattcc777 says:
so the same thing wont happen in the field
nick says:
yes but training mistakes are bound to happen this is how that individual will lear not to make this mistake again.... but if the mistake is repetative well then he or she will nolonger be apart of us
mattcc777 says:
but how is that a mistake, that is a direct case if insubordanation. a mistake is he didnt clear a room right not ignoring a direct order.
mattcc777 says:
am i wrong?
mattcc777 says:
"It is definitely a thankless profession. This confirms it for me," says Patrick Hawk, a 30-year-old University of Maryland criminology graduate who is highly trained in the martial arts and works for a wealthy industrialist. "You don't get thank-yous. But if something ever goes wrong, it falls on you."
nick says:
well if he or she herd diffrently then punnishment but any insabordination will not be toallrated
nick says:
tolarated
mattcc777 says:
then we r directly in agreement. because i have seen u snap more offten then me.
nick says:
realy? im not so sure about that... can i get one example
nick says:
but the answer is yes
mattcc777 says:
i mean we r both layed back until something is just so back that it just can no longer ignored. and we have to address it.
nick says:
YES
mattcc777 says:
with vinny
nick says:
haha thats a completlydiffrent story
mattcc777 says:
vinny does shit and u keep telling him to stop then out of no where u just sock him square in the chest.
mattcc777 says:
lol is funny
nick says:
thts cuz its fun lol
mattcc777 says:
but yea
nick says:
haha
mattcc777 says:
yea
nick says:
ok will its 316 in da morning and ive got to sleep
nick says:
i have to work tomarrow
mattcc777 says:
lol i have work at 3
mattcc777 says:
lol
mattcc777 says:
2 bad 4 u
mattcc777 says:
lol
nick says:
haha lol
nick says:
night
mattcc777 says:
ok kk